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Gentlemen! The BajaBoyz are cruising again… Carnival Spirit out of San Diego on January 28th, 2011. Last year there were about 40 of us on the Spirit and we had a great time. This cruise we have a different itinerary for a 9 day cruise… $50 deposit and $489 pp interior. We are booking now and look forward to meeting you all on the Fantail!
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My partner of 23 years Lenny and I sailed on the same October 2009 Halloween Carnival Spirit cruise of the Mexican Riviera that Mark and Dale wrote about extensively here. It was our first time on a Carnival ship, and we were overal favorably impressed, especially as the deal that had been arranged for our group of 20+ guys made it very affordable. The cost of $650 per person included all port taxes, gratutities, a complimentary bottle of wine in our cabin, and a party in one of the lounges. We had an inside cabin, which may not be to everyone’s taste.
We had reservations about sailing on a Carnival ship, as we had heard horror stories about the wild and noisy partying/debauchery and the kind of people that were attracted to this line. Well, it is true to a large extent. The passengers tend to be younger and more party-oriented than, say, the sedate elderly crowd we encountered on the Holland America Alaska cruise the year before. Some of the shipboard entertainment is pretty mindless, like racing on deck while holding a pile of rubber chickens, or men strutting like Tarzan, or barking like dogs, or showing off the hairy chest. That silliness was a turnoff. On the other hand the evening cabaret shows were terrific, resembling what you’d find in Las Vegas. If that’s what you’re looking for on a cruise, you certainly get your money’s worth!
The food was better than expected. We had a great Russian waiter named Igor. The fine quality of the food was one of the biggest surprises of the trip. It is not up to the high standards of, say, Oceania cruise lines, but pretty darn good. Over the course of eight days you get many of the basics: lobster, filet mignon, boeuf stroganoff, with good-tasting soups, salads, and more exotic appetizers, and adequate desset selection. The cheese course was ordinary; Costco has a much better selection!
But for our gay group of 20+ gays and Mark and Dale’s group of 6 gays, the ship is overwhelmingly heterosexual. I’d think twice about going on this cruise (or any cruise) without a bunch of gay friends, unles Atlantis or some other gay travel company has booked a number of cabins on the ship.
For the money, a cruise on a Carnival “fun” ship is worth considering, especially if you are part of a younger crowd (20s, 30s and 40s) and like a party atmosphere. If you are looking for academic lectures on the destinations you will be visiting, or high-brow entertainment, or a mature well-heeled crowd, you may wish to look elsewhere, and spend much more $$$. Make sure there are plenty oif gay folk on board to add to your enjoyment.
My definition of ‘being gay’ has to do with how comfortable my partner of 23 years and myself can be on a mainstream cruise. We don’t need to be flamboyant but we do need to feel comfortable as gay men who have been in a long-term relationship. This was our first sailing with Carnival and our feelings were generally very positive.
First, the positive:
The pool deck on the Carnival Spirit
The Carnival Spirit employees were superb! The staff on the Spirit were some of the kindest we have ever had. When we asked our steward to join our twin beds, he never blinked an eye. The waiters in the main restaurant were all first-class no matter if they were serving Dale and I or a table of six to ten gay men. We felt comfortable embracing on the deck watching the sunset and also dancing with our friends in the disco. Never did the staff or the passengers on board make us feel uncomfortable.
Now, the negative:
The friendliness of the staff did not carry over to the hospitality of Carnival. Even though they held a nightly Friends of Dorothy gathering, Carnival did nothing to make it unique. Since this was a Halloween cruise, there were a large number of gays and lesbians on this sailing. They held
Ken from the BajaGay group at one of the nightly FOD events
the first FOD meeting in the Deco Lounge which was next to the entrance of the main dining room. Due to this, the lounge was full of people having a pre-dinner cocktails which left no room for our group. Stu, the Cruise Director walked by and a few of us stopped him to explain the situation. He specifically mentioned that there were was a large group of G&L cruisers on this sailing and he was going to change the time of the FOD meeting so it wound not interfere with the dinner crowd and we would have more space to socialize. This was kind of him to make the time change but he never went out of his way to welcome us on board and didn’t take a few minutes to introduce himself to the group. I don’t believe this would have happened on many other cruise lines especially with this large of a group. A little hospitality from the Cruise Director goes a long way and says a lot about the cruise line and ship.
To summarize:
The ship’s amenities were fine, the wait staff and cabin staff superb, and the food excellent without exception. We just feel that Carnival could have been more welcoming to the large G&L contingent on board. Would I sail Carnival again? Absolutely. When do we leave?
Going on the Carnival Spirit on March 10th. My parnter and spouse (married in IOWA 8-09-10) also of 23 years have traveled on Carnival on 6 sailings. The F.O.D. have never had any attendence on our sailings. What a shame. I ask them to change the name to GLBT mixers. Younger gays don’t know the history of the name Friends of Dorothy. Carnival has always made us feel welcome! Back Again…
Going on the Carnival Spirit on March 10th. My parnter and spouse (married in IOWA 8-09-10) also of 23 years have traveled on Carnival on 6 sailings. The F.O.D. have never had any attendence on our sailings. What a shame. I ask them to change the name to GLBT mixers. Younger gays don’t know the history of the name Friends of Dorothy. Carnival has always made us feel welcome! Back Again…
As Mark writes throughout his blog the experience on Carnival exceeded our expectations. The food was fine dinning quality at every meal and though I prefer open seating, it was nice to have the same wait staff nightly remembering our lemons for our water and decaf cappuccino for Bob and regular for me. My partner of 23 years and I did also enjoy the ports visited but were glad we didn’t spend too much time in each one. Our favorite, (it seems everyone’s favorite) was Zihuatanejo being a quaint fishing village and reasonable shopping outside of the docking area. It’s always best to walk a few blocks out of mainstream tourism to get the best values and authentic local meals. Acapulco was a bit of a personal disappointment. I had been there years ago and even the area of the renown “El Presidente” was extremely run down. We had taken a local bus to the Condessa Beach area enjoying the “local” experience (having studying in Mexico years ago I particularly enjoy “blending in” with the locals), red hair and all! We did appreciate the bus drivers and all of the vendors accepting our American dollars so we did not have to exchange our money. As far as Acapulco went, I feel the best experience was seeing the bay magically lit up at night from our deck.
Manzanillo was also not the town I remembered years ago having stayed near Las Hadas earlier. So docking near the actual town of Manzanillo wasn’t quite the experience we had all hoped for, but again, we did enjoy the local mingling and commented how courteous the drivers were. All of them!! I was also able to purchase Mark’s final touch to his Hooter Girls costume, a pair of knee-high stockings in a local grocery store. Manzanillo is Mexico’s largest Pacific port so the port was not the tropical setting as others.
Back on board we never felt uncomfortable being a gay couple however I do feel one of the best costumes on board was overlooked possibly due to the Carnival staff being too conservative. Actually, other straight guests approached us saying they felt we were discriminated against (talking about the retired Hooter Girls) and should have made the top five finalists.
Our extended deck stateroom was terrific! The size and layout was the same as other outside rooms on other levels but the extended deck off the back of the ship allowed us to see well overhead and almost both left and right horizons. The back of the ship was sloped allowing us an over head view while still being private. There was plenty of storage room and space in the closets for our empty suitcases. Even the bathroom had plenty of space of all our lotions, potions and hair gel.
The conversation at our last breakfast together included talk of our next cruise all agreeing that location and on board ship time is most important.
I agree that Zihuatanejo is by far the nicest port on this particular itinerary. It is a quaint and charming fishing village with very friendly people. Acapulco has really changed over the last several years becoming way to busy and run down. The bay at night is spectacular!
Glad you liked Zihuatanejo so much. I guess you know why I have lived here so long!
Is there anything we ‘should not miss’ on our next visit?
The original Hooter Girls
Halloween is one of my favorite holidays. If I do go out it’s usually to a gay bar where we all know that anything goes on that particular night. I had no idea what to expect on Carnival. Before dinner, the ship had a party in the 9 story atrium. We were all very surprised on the number of people who attended in full costume! It was incredible. Dale and I dressed as the original Hooter Girls from the 1960′s. People that might usually be offended were grabbing us so they could take our photo. I cannot begin to explain the fun that we had.
After dinner in the main show lounge, Carnival had their costume contest. This was a let down. The energy and excitment that was experienced in the atrium totally disappeared in the lounge. Maybe Carnival doesn’t understand how big this holiday has become in the States or how many people went on this cruise specifically because it was Halloween. The woman who won the contest deserved the grand prize. Considering all the time and energy people spent on their costume, a bag of candy for first place was quite ridiculous.
For all of you who have seen the classic movie ‘A Christmas Story’, the first place winner was an amputee dressed as the lamp. If I need to explain more, you need to rent the film.
Now I need to start making my costume for next year!
Now that’s what I call sexy!
Now that’s what I call sexy!
When Dale and I met over 22 years ago, our first trip together was to Acapulco. It’s exciting to be back! Acapulco sits in a beautiful bay surrounded by lush mountains and sandy beaches.
I’m not much interested in shopping or the commercial strips but rather seeing and experiencing the ‘real’ Acapulco. Don’t take a bus or a taxi here but rather walk the 6 blocks to experience the street life and the people. We spent most of the afternoon in the Zocalo (town square) with the natives. We find the Mexican people to be so hospitable and friendly. Yes, there is lots of poverty and quite a bit of begging but it doesn’t need to ruin your experience of the town. The market is located in this part of town. If you’re interested in buying local art or souvenirs, this is a good place. Your offer should be 1/2 of what they are asking. Of course they won’t accept it but as you walk away and refuse to turn back, they’ll change their mind. Much like the gay bars at closing time, an earlier offer looks better when there’s no other proposition in sight.
A closeup of the Acapulco divers
A three block walk up a steep hill is the famous Acapulco divers. The actual diving show is very short but it’s exciting to see these young guys jump from the rock cliffs. What gay man wouldn’t love to see cute young Mexican boys in tight speedos?
Now it once again back to the ship for our nightly calories. Tomorrow is Zihuatanejo / Ixtapa
Don’t miss the diver’s show when you’re in Acapulco. The boys in tight speeds are well worth it!
My husband and I spent my 40th birthday in Acapulco. Actually found a gay B&B there that made me a birthday cake, even though we were just day-trippers from our cruise ship. LOVED Acapulco! Had so much fun watching those hottie cliff divers we almost missed our ship!
For $7.00 it’s worth seeing the divers once. If I ever go back to Acapulco, I wouldn’t go back.
Don’t miss the diver’s show when you’re in Acapulco. The boys in tight speeds are well worth it!
My husband and I spent my 40th birthday in Acapulco. Actually found a gay B&B there that made me a birthday cake, even though we were just day-trippers from our cruise ship. LOVED Acapulco! Had so much fun watching those hottie cliff divers we almost missed our ship!
For $7.00 it’s worth seeing the divers once. If I ever go back to Acapulco, I wouldn’t go back.
I always find that on my first full day at sea, I want to explore my new ‘home’ for the next 8 days. When ever I’m on a new ship, it seems to take me 2-3 days to really get to know the layout and where I’m going. The Spirit could do a much better job on their floor plan signage. I know my eyes are getting older but the ‘You Are Here’ signs needs to be twice as large and moved up about 3 feet. Remember to take a flashlight and bifocals to read these things.
We introduced ourselves to the cruise director who was happy to switch the ‘Friends of Dorothy’ gathering to a much better time slot. We appreciated his responsiveness.
Tonight is one of the two formal nights. Our waiter and assistant are top notch – as good as they come. Most of our recent cruises have been ‘open seating’ and it’s so nice to once again go back to the old format where you sit at the same table and have the same waiter for the entire journey. Things just seem to magically appear on your table without asking since he begins to know your likes and dislikes. These are the extra touches of cruising that I love!
The dinner this evening was delicious. Caesar salad followed by the main course of lobster and shrimp done to perfection! What better way to finish the meal than with a gooey chocolate cake smothered in vanilla ice cream. Off to the gym tomorrow!
Life is good! Perfect weather. Calm seas. Great friends – both old and new.
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Tim-n-Rick 7:08 am on February 19, 2010 Permalink |
Great review and dead on observations. I’ve sailed Carnival in the past and will be on the Carnival Fantasy next week. Both times have been with my Mom, Dad, Sister and brother in law. I agree with you that I would not consider sailing with Carnival with my partner just because of the young, hetero, party crowd. My trips have been fine with my family and we have never had a problem with any service or issues with staff but I wouldn’t want to risk any uncomfortable situations with just my partner and myself. It is well worth the extra $$$ to either be with a gay charter, group cruise or on a more expensive line.
Tim-n-Rick 7:08 am on February 19, 2010 Permalink |
Great review and dead on observations. I’ve sailed Carnival in the past and will be on the Carnival Fantasy next week. Both times have been with my Mom, Dad, Sister and brother in law. I agree with you that I would not consider sailing with Carnival with my partner just because of the young, hetero, party crowd. My trips have been fine with my family and we have never had a problem with any service or issues with staff but I wouldn’t want to risk any uncomfortable situations with just my partner and myself. It is well worth the extra $$$ to either be with a gay charter, group cruise or on a more expensive line.